Dogfight Elite beta 1 is now available for Windows Phone.
Download link: www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9NBLGGH5KTCR

Notice though, that you need a last generation phone. I've tried on a 3 years old phone and the speed was horrible. So post here with your results and phone.

Hi, Zup

I've just downloaded elite to my Microsoft Lumia 640LTE phone.

The download completed perfectly and I logged in without problems.

On entering a Capture the Carrier game I was impressed with the quality of the graphics but I think they are too detailed for my phone.

On taking off, the display resembled a slide-show, (about 3-4 frames per second). Once I got above the horizon and into the sky where the ground was no longer visible, the display was perfectly smooth but as soon as the trees came into view it became jerky again. The frame rate seems to be inversely proportional to the number of trees visible. I'm guessing this is a problem with my phone rather than the game itself.

The phone is running windows 8.1 Denim, update 2 with 1GB RAM and a 1.2 Ghz quad-core processor. Screen resolution is 720 x 1280.

The only 'problem' I noticed was that there was rain splashing on the carrier deck when the sky was clear.

Hope this is helpful.

Back to 'Classic' Dogfight!

Darn, still not available for me. I have Lumina 1520 with denim 8.1 operating system.

I'm sending a new update to see if it speeds up your phone. It should be out by tomorrow I guess.

Thanks for the speedy response, Zup!

I just assumed that my phone wasn't powerful enough but, if you're willing to issue an update, I'm willing to try it!

I'll let you know if it has any effect as soon as it's available.

Thanks for all your hard work.

WEREWULF wrote: Darn, still not available for me. I have Lumina 1520 with denim 8.1 operating system.

I'm glad that I'm not alone in this. Lumia 730 here. 1GB RAM and a 1.2 Ghz quad-core processor, Screen resolution is 720 x 1280. OS Windows 8.1 Denim. Game not available.

yeah I don't know what to do about it. I'm thinking about it off from Windows Phone. The problem is on Unity side. They changed something on the game engine that makes the network code run hyper slow on Windows Phone.

To test it, just go into practice mode (no network). I'm sure it will run way faster. But if you go into multiplayer, with the same graphics and all... slow like snail. Am I correct or only happens on my phone?

I'm writing to Unity but I'm worried they are not paying much attention to that platform any more.

Hello zuperman, i just downloaded elite but my game crashes everytime i try connecting to server (on waiting for availible game... Screen) or when i click continue on practise mission. Im using Nokia Lumia 630 dual sim. If i can help you somehow let me know.

The game is now available to download for 8.1 WPs! Although tilt doesn't work.

Hi, Zup

I've downloaded the update (1.1.0.2) and some aspects are better, some worse.

On the plus side, the video is a lot smoother, not quite as fluid as DF1 but certainly playable. It's still better in the open sky when no land or trees are visible but the difference is quite small now. Gameplay speed seems the same whether playing practice or multiplayer. I am playing with the simple cockpit and no detailed water or shadows. The display seems slightly smoother using the inside view rather than outside.

On the downside, on selecting a game, the hangar animation freezes for about 5-10 seconds before allowing you to continue. The percentage indicator on the carrier is as big as the ship itself. Also the name tags on the other planes are enormous. I tried to reduce the size in the graphics menu but this had no effect. Neither could I turn the detailed water or shadows back on.

The worst problem, which I didn't encounter yesterday, is that the video freezes for anything from 2 to 25 seconds before resuming (similar to buffering when downloading a movie). The audio continues as normal while the video is frozen.

Performance seems the same on a variety of servers, from the closest (Europe) to the farthest (Asia).

Finally, in the zeppelin practice mission, after shooting the engines, the main health bar does not reduce no matter how many times you hit the target.

Thanks for all the work you're putting into this, Zup.

WEREWULF wrote: The game is now available to download for 8.1 WPs! Although tilt doesn't work.

what do you mean? It is working on my phone What phone is that?

Good news. I've got a new version of Unity and I think it fixes some of the issues. I'll be working on an update tomorrow.

I'm on a Lumina 1520. I use the "movement" option instead of the "joystick" option. When I go into a game, my tilting of the phone doesn't register, and just start barrel rolling until I crash.

Ok here is my experience so far after the latest update. I have 3 phones:
Lumia 520: forget about it. It runs it like crap.
Lumia 920: it runs it but runs out of memory very often, so crashes often too. Reason is that it has only 1gb of ram but Windows Phone 8.1 only allows to use around 500 megas of ram for the game.
Lumia 930: it runs it pretty well. It's a good generation phone but even then I'm surprised it doesn't run it way faster.

Conclusion: I think i'm going to remove it from the Windows Phone store or just allow for phone devices with Windows 10 to run it, because it seems nothing with 1gb or less of ram will be able to do so.

I think you're right about the Windows phones, Zup.

I've just downloaded the latest update (1.1.0.3) but this is worse on my phone (Lumia 640) than the first version. Frame rate over land is now only 2-3 fps and even in clear blue sky only rises to 7-8 fps. This is the same whether in practice or multiplayer.

Also I still can't adjust the name tag size or bring the shadows back.

I'll just have to make do with 'classic' Dogfight!

Thanks for trying to include Windows phones though, Zup. Much appreciated.

zuperman wrote:

WEREWULF wrote: The game is now available to download for 8.1 WPs! Although tilt doesn't work.

what do you mean? It is working on my phone What phone is that?

Ive pin pointed the problem. There is a three second delay in the tilting. I tilt the phone, to make the plane turn, but it doesn't follow my tilt until three seconds later. This is regardless of the sensitivity level.

Hi zuperman. Lumia 830 here. Game downloaded. It runs pretty well here. The only issue that I've noticed was while in tank, game runs slower than in plane, and when I shoot something, game crashes. Should I stick with Dogfight?

Now I'm not expecting to be able to play Elite on my phone (Lumia 640 - details in earlier post) but I downloaded the latest update (1.1.0.4) out of curiosity to see how it ran. Here are my observations, for what they're worth...

This is the best version yet for my phone. The frame rate is the best so far; it's still a little smoother when the land is out of sight but easily playable.

The killer problem, probably due to my phone's lack of memory, is that the video sporadically freezes from 2-20 seconds. After about 20 seconds the game exits back to my app. list (probably lack of memory again). Interestingly, this only happens in third person view. I haven't seen it happen if I stick to first person view.

I'm running the simple cockpit with no shadows or detailed water. I still can't turn the shadows back on or reduce the size of the plane nametags.

Oh, and it's still raining on the carriers, even when the skies are clear.

See you back in 'classic' Dogfight!

yes it can happen more often on third person because it requires more memory: it loads the full airplane that you see in front of you.
When you are in first person view, it doesn't load the airplane, so if it happens that your memory is in the limit of running out... it can make it crash when you switch.

Sorry for being so quiet these few days. I'm desperately waiting for Apple and Amazon to release the game so I can move on with the next stage.

Meanwhile I'm rewriting the backend so that it fixes the issues with the chat, squadrons and name changes. It should be done by today with a new update.

Any new updates for apple? Im gonna cry

yeah, the update is that they've rejected it 4 times during the month and I keep sending new versions with requested changes. I'm just waiting on them to let it through at some point.

can you do anything with the tags on the planes zup you cannot see the plane till it gets close all you see is the squad and tag and its more or less spray and pray?

zuperman wrote: yeah, the update is that they've rejected it 4 times during the month and I keep sending new versions with requested changes. I'm just waiting on them to let it through at some point.

Zup is Dogfight elite going to be free soon
and I got a couple update for the original dogfight what were those about?

Dogfight Elite will not be free. I never said it would. In fact it will raise on price as soon as beta is over since per agreements on stores they prices need to be adjusted. This system has helped tremendously to keep undesired players outside the game: people who just download and begin posting crap on world chat or harassing players. Now they don't do that after they've actually spent some money to get in. Not to mention that it helps a lot to fund development costs.

Yes Zup its well worth the payment to keep the trolls n haters and shit disturbers away ......

zuperman wrote: Dogfight Elite will not be free. I never said it would. In fact it will raise on price as soon as beta is over since per agreements on stores they prices need to be adjusted. This system has helped tremendously to keep undesired players outside the game: people who just download and begin posting crap on world chat or harassing players. Now they don't do that after they've actually spent some money to get in. Not to mention that it helps a lot to fund development costs.

zuperman wrote: Dogfight Elite will not be free. I never said it would. In fact it will raise on price as soon as beta is over since per agreements on stores they prices need to be adjusted. This system has helped tremendously to keep undesired players outside the game: people who just download and begin posting crap on world chat or harassing players. Now they don't do that after they've actually spent some money to get in. Not to mention that it helps a lot to fund development costs.

btw, while I wait for Apple to release, I'm working on new stuff and I may post pics soon on my twitter account if you want to follow it twitter.com/joaquingrech
sometimes I post there screenshots while I work

Hey zup,

I just tested the new update. There is a 2 second lag in the reaction when I use the "movement controller" preference feature. When I use the joystick preference, there isn't any lag in its reaction.

My device: Nokia 1520

Hope this help your programming.

If anyone is listening, DFE is still a broke game in windows phone. Paid for the game, downloaded it and was eagerly waiting for some updates. Haven't got any updates after mid-march. Just wanna let you,Zup, know that there are in fact a lot of windows phone users supporting the game. I feel kind of stupid now because I'm the only one to give the game a 5 star rating in my region,which anyone can easily find out from the store.

Major bugs: When I press the FIRE button, the plane throttle down like I have pulled down the throttle.
Haven't tried much because its not easy to fly the plane with no throttle and incoming bullets.