- program it so friendly fire can't harm teammates
- make landing easier
- add rudder control
- allow players to choose their game
- add different play fields
- allow hangers to be destroyed by bullets
- let the planes survive a few more shots

JMAN,
What they were saying on the other thread was that's it's not good manners to go on a forum to criticize the game and then suggest other games.
Your suggestions are valid, and appreciated, yet to say the other game is better is to miss the point. If DF adopted the way the other games are played, then they would be the same.

ZUPERMAN works VERY hard to make this game stand out and is here for us. Try that there.

When I want something different I try other games. Xtreme Soaring is one I enjoy to relax. The developer is like ZUPERMAN. Independent and working hard.

As far as your suggestions go...not being able to hit blues will result in mass shooting into the mass. No Skill.
Landing easier? No skill.
The rest..patience.....their time will come.

I hope this makes some sense.

Agree Paul. This game cost a few bucks but is great fun. Easy enough to learn to fly, hard to master and to top it all off a good community around it. There are features that Zup would love to fix but can't. He tried to raise the money to fund DF elite which would have addressed many of jman's concerns and resulted in an awesome game. Many of us pledged money, but not enough.

If you want zup to be able to do more, spend more. Buy points, get new players to purchase before their trial expires.

Double post..sorry.

The one below sucks.

WE'll get there.

I PaRtY on some other games. Cars, planes, boats....

...You folks ARE Family. Thank you.

-jman70- wrote: - program it so friendly fire can't harm teammates
- make landing easier
- add rudder control
- allow players to choose their game
- add different play fields
- allow hangers to be destroyed by bullets
- let the planes survive a few more shots

My two cents, just another player's opinion:

- program it so friendly fire can't harm teammates
I DISAGREE FOR REASONS STATED. BUT MAKING HANGARS IMMUNE FROM FRIENDLY BOMBS, YES!!
- add rudder control
WOULD BE NICE FOR AEROBATICS BUT I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR DF'G
- allow players to choose their game
YES! YES!
- add different play fields
AS IN NEW MISSIONS? AGREE BUT LOTS OF OTHER FEATURES RANK HIGHER IMO
- allow hangers to be destroyed by bullets
NOOOO EVERYONE WOULD DUMP BOMBS EARLY, I DON'T THINK THE RESULTING GAME DYNAMIC WOULD BE MORE FUN
- let the planes survive a few more shots
I DISAGREE, IT WOULD BE UNREASONABLY DIFFICULT TO DF-KILL HIGH RANKERS, JUST GET BETTER AT EVADING. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT, I TOTALLY FELT THAT WAY WHEN I WAS A NOOB

Manfred

If you could could choose your game than one could chose shoot zep and he moraf in 10 days. I'm not for that idea

Hey I just thought of an excellent suggestion

Paul,

You're right. I apologize to all for doing that. I really do like this game, I was just blowing off some steam. It's just that I had to promise my wife that I wouldn't play it anymore because of my anger problem. If there's one thing better about Dogfight as opposed to Sto- oops sorry, "the other game" is this one has a much better community. All the other one has is a Facebook group.

If I could choose the game, I would only play Zepplin, BTC, and the free for all. Those usually don't get me angry.

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Manfred,

Rudder control would help steering the plane sideways to help with aiming.

When I say new playfields, I don't mean new missions so much. More like different locations where the same objective(s) must be accomplished.

I can understand your opposition to the rest.

Thank you Jman for that last post.

I too apologize for the harsh words and unnecessary name calling. I took exception to your post and saw it as an attack and responded in kind.

I appreciate the frustration. I even share it at times. However, I do very much appreciate the personal touch provided here by Zuperman and jumped to defend when I could have offered a less aggressive response.

Dixieconfederate wrote: If you could could choose your game than one could chose shoot zep and he moraf in 10 days. I'm not for that idea

Good point, Dix. Zup could even play with the pointage in certain missions, but whatever is garnering the most points will wind up being oversubscribed. Yah ok nevermind from me.

-jman70- wrote: Rudder control would help steering the plane sideways to help with aiming.

When I say new playfields, I don't mean new missions so much. More like different locations where the same objective(s) must be accomplished.

I can understand your opposition to the rest.

OIC. That could make head-on aiming kind of interesting. I wonder what the control input would be. And I wonder if real WWI pilots used rudder for an off-axis nudge of the bullet stream.

Different locations would be very cool indeed. In the past, we asked Z for buildings all across the dogfight terrain. That sort of stuff would be a lot of work for his staff, but I've always wondered if some of the players could be briefly trained to program a terrain and components, and let loose on an experimental terrain that could become official at some point.

Manfred

First off:
When entering a game your connection is tested and those playing on substandard networks and throttlers are detected and booted.(hopefully sort out the laggers)

I would have an option in the ingame menu to swap sides.

J4ff wrote: First off:
When entering a game your connection is tested and those playing on substandard networks and throttlers are detected and booted.(hopefully sort out the laggers)

I would have an option in the ingame menu to swap sides.

Thank ya twice

Also, what about squadrons... If somebody is recruited or inducted into a squadron, it's because they like their "stuff", so shouldn't they always be on the same team?

That's in the works, jman. Joaquin's working on Squad Wars, battles specifically between two squads.

Another idea is a time delay on respawning in a plane. Say about... 10 seconds. This way it's less rewarding to get shot down as you currently can respawn right away and start shooting enemies that have neared your base. The time delay would make it more fair.

And another thing. If and when you add new locations, spread the bombing targets out more, don't have them all clustered together like they are now.