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Submarine mission 2 years 5 days ago #385581

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German Base is way closer to sub. Not fair play just saying 
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Submarine mission 2 years 4 days ago #385586

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Yeah I know. Originally I used both lakes but the problem with the west lake is that is way farther from the german side. By a larger amount. And that many airplanes took forever to arrive to the action area or ran out of fuel soon. It was only ok for Mixed wars, but for WW1 is became too boring if done that way.

There was no easy solution, the best I could do was to make the submarines popup more often near the south. Also once they are submerged, it pretty much doesn't matter because it's all solved in air combat.

Lastly, I check the stats to balance the games as much as possible. So far it seems to be ok.

For WW1 games, the Allied side won 44 games vs the German side only won 26. So it seems the allied side has a clear advantage, but it's not as simple because in WW1 games many times the allied side is alone.

For Mixed games, the Allied side won 90 and the German 111. Not a huge disparity so far.
 
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Submarine mission 2 years 8 hours ago #385606

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why not put a aa gun on the sub and have them team defend it have one side defend and one attack similar to the train mission also there is a glitch seems when you join the sub game you can see the sub and others who start the game earlier cant
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Submarine mission 1 year 11 months ago #385623

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the submarine doesn't stay up long enough for the AA gun to be really useful. I had it there but after some testing, it didn't make sense to keep it.

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Submarine mission 1 year 11 months ago #385645

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just have one sub and why not keep the sub up and let it slowly submerge over time one defend it and one to sink it similar to bring down bomber missions. If the sub submerges  the defenders win if it sunk aggressors win .  would be cool to land on sub and man a aa gun from German side as its closer and give time to do so while allies fly from the base thats further away
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Submarine mission 1 year 11 months ago #385646

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That was the original idea, similar to the zep mission: one defends, one tries to bring it down.
But the issue is that, unlike the zep, the submarine is restricted to the lake and it provides a huge advantage to one of the sides. If germans got to defend it, they are near it compared to the allied side. If i switch places, the allied would need to defend it but they are way too far.

Then I tried flipping with lakes, same issue because one lake is way far from the other base and so on. At the end the best combination was to have 2 submarines in the same lake and let them submerge more often so that people would have enough time to fly to the area no matter which team they were assigned and do a little dogfighting while they waited to reappear.

As for the machine gun, things sound "cool" but the reality is that almost nobody uses them. Adding guns to the carriers for instance was requested a million times, I added them. How many times do you see people using those guns? Rarely. They do, but about 3% of the carrier games. People prefer to fly, not to land and use machine guns on them. And that's in a carrier that is designed for people to take off and land on it. A submarine is not a place to land your airplane, to begin with.

I'm also giving thought to the possibility of the submarine launching a missile attack, but it's still in progress.
 
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Submarine mission 1 year 11 months ago #385647

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I have not play that mission, but for what I you wrote maybe you can explore making the submarine enter game from the far side of the lake that is close to were the train mission starts. that way the two teams have to travel almost the same distance to get to it. or maybe delay the take off one side. The idea of the sub to be able to fire at base sound great, will bring more of a challenge . Thank you for all the new upgrades Zup.
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Submarine mission 1 year 11 months ago #385648

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any chance of a tank only mission i love playing in the tank the spy mission is no fun .place a flag in middle of map and have everyone start in a tank first to the flag is a winner
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Submarine mission 1 year 11 months ago #385649

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Great idea, Roy. No flag make it a target the tank needs to hit.





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Submarine mission 1 year 11 months ago #385668

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Tanks bomb hangers just like plane gotta get close to bomb. Something different there would be people that aren't as good in plane and better in tank special rank in tanks give all the old timers something to shoot for just saying

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