I may regret this flame later, but I am compelled to respond to some in-game flaming that I received from PRDog.

When I'm in a game with newbies, I try to give some tips. Not sure how many of you see this (or even see me - even now I am a relatively rare sighting, except for the time that Calvin and I played a bunch of games in succession), but if I shoot someone down and then see them again later in the game doing something like not turning, I text "juke and jive!" or "turn hard and evade" or something like that. These players eventually get it, and they are all over the sky (at which point, it's time to learn to zero in on a target, but at least they stay alive longer). But often there are other competent players in the game, and I don't have the luxury of texting much encouragement or advice, since I'll get my nose shot off.

Today, I happened to be winning a game of Dogfight (which is NOT a given - in the past week, I'd say I've lost about half of the Dogfight matches). PRDog starts laying into me, calling me names and berating me for killing. At first I didn't even know the messages were for me - the players I was dogfighting with were engaging in decent dogfights, and I was working hard to avoid their sights and maneuver behind them. Heck, PRDog has certainly sent his share of lead into my backside, if memory serves. At my level, which isn't exactly Ace but I've got some game, on a good day I might go 50/50 with other top 100 players, and on a bad day, just about anyone with maneuvering capability can get me. I don't think "Manfred joined the game" has anyone shaking in their boots.

So this was a good game. I was working hard for most kills, and there were definitely a couple where I wanted to text "juke and jive." But there were bullets flying around, and texting wasn't a good idea. In fact, I texted PRDog back, and I got shot down a bunch of times for it. I believe I wound up winning the game 15:8. That's hardly Ace material.

Yesterday, I entered a Shoot the Zepp game kind of late, and my team was losing badly (one engine down, Zepp coming over our base). My team evaporated, and I stuck it out, setting a simple goal of getting that second engine before the game was lost. I got spawnkilled repeatedly on the runway, and each time I re-spawned, I fought to get in the air. I remember someone texting some encouragement, we've all been there, way to stick it out, that sort of thing. I never did get that second engine, but I was proud to have tried, despite all the red ace patches streaming fire at me.

I'm not sure of my point in this post (besides flaming back). Maybe it's what that person told me, that we've all been there, and I'd like to say that I'm a better pilot from it. As for PRDog, I hope you don't ever find yourself playing particularly well one day, only to have someone flame at you and call you a Brigadier General Sandbagger. It's a GAME! I suppose anyone has a right to voice opinions; I am just providing the counterpoint.

Manfred

It's okay manfred, don't let anyone let you down (that's what I allways sya to myself)

That's unusual for PR. He wS probably in a bad mood, he's usually a great guy. :/

Anyway, yeah, if you can flame an idiot out of existance, do it. Be polite first, a few days ago I got a guy to change his name. It was a pretty bad one, too. Took a while, and involved some teamkilling from both of us.

Manfred wrote: I may regret this flame later, but I am compelled to respond to some in-game flaming that I received from PRDog.

When I'm in a game with newbies, I try to give some tips. Not sure how many of you see this (or even see me - even now I am a relatively rare sighting, except for the time that Calvin and I played a bunch of games in succession), but if I shoot someone down and then see them again later in the game doing something like not turning, I text "juke and jive!" or "turn hard and evade" or something like that. These players eventually get it, and they are all over the sky (at which point, it's time to learn to zero in on a target, but at least they stay alive longer). But often there are other competent players in the game, and I don't have the luxury of texting much encouragement or advice, since I'll get my nose shoat off.

Today, I happened to be winning a game of Dogfight (which is NOT a given - in the past week, I'd say I've lost about half of the Dogfight matches). PRDog starts laying into me, calling me names and berating me for killing. At first I didn't even know the messages were for me - the players I was dogfighting with were engaging in decent dogfights, and I was working hard to avoid their sights and maneuver behind them. Heck, PRDog has certainly sent his share of lead into my backside, if memory serves. At my level, which isn't exactly Ace but I've got some game, on a good day I might go 50/50 with other top 100 players, and on a bad day, just about anyone with maneuvering capability can get me. I don't think "Manfred joined the game" has anyone shaking in their boots.

So this was a good game. I was working hard for most kills, and there were definitely a couple where I wanted to text "juke and jive." But there were bullets flying around, and texting wasn't a good idea. In fact, I texted PRDog back, and I got shot down a bunch of times for it. I believe I wound up winning the game 15:8. That's hardly Ace material.

Yesterday, I entered a Shoot the Zepp game kind of late, and my team was losing badly (one engine down, Zepp coming over our base). My team evaporated, and I stuck it out, setting a simple goal of getting that second engine before the game was lost. I got spawnkilled repeatedly on the runway, and each time I re-spawned, I fought to get in the air. I remember someone texting some encouragement, we've all been there, way to stick it out, that sort of thing. I never did get that second engine, but I was proud to have tried, despite all the red ace patches streaming fire at me.

I'm not sure of my point in this post (besides flaming back). Maybe it's what that person told me, that we've all been there, and I'd like to say that I'm a better pilot from it. As for PRDog, I hope you don't ever find yourself playing particularly well one day, only to have someone flame at you and call you a Brigadier General Sandbagger. It's a GAME! I suppose anyone has a right to voice opinions; I am just providing the counterpoint.

Manfred

He did the same thing to me. He said anyone above a major general should quit. It's not fair to others, but when I started playing I was rank 1 like everybody else. He made me feel like I was not welcome

Manfred wrote: I may regret this flame later, but I am compelled to respond to some in-game flaming that I received from PRDog.

When I'm in a game with newbies, I try to give some tips. Not sure how many of you see this (or even see me - even now I am a relatively rare sighting, except for the time that Calvin and I played a bunch of games in succession), but if I shoot someone down and then see them again later in the game doing something like not turning, I text "juke and jive!" or "turn hard and evade" or something like that. These players eventually get it, and they are all over the sky (at which point, it's time to learn to zero in on a target, but at least they stay alive longer). But often there are other competent players in the game, and I don't have the luxury of texting much encouragement or advice, since I'll get my nose shot off.

Today, I happened to be winning a game of Dogfight (which is NOT a given - in the past week, I'd say I've lost about half of the Dogfight matches). PRDog starts laying into me, calling me names and berating me for killing. At first I didn't even know the messages were for me - the players I was dogfighting with were engaging in decent dogfights, and I was working hard to avoid their sights and maneuver behind them. Heck, PRDog has certainly sent his share of lead into my backside, if memory serves. At my level, which isn't exactly Ace but I've got some game, on a good day I might go 50/50 with other top 100 players, and on a bad day, just about anyone with maneuvering capability can get me. I don't think "Manfred joined the game" has anyone shaking in their boots.

So this was a good game. I was working hard for most kills, and there were definitely a couple where I wanted to text "juke and jive." But there were bullets flying around, and texting wasn't a good idea. In fact, I texted PRDog back, and I got shot down a bunch of times for it. I believe I wound up winning the game 15:8. That's hardly Ace material.

Yesterday, I entered a Shoot the Zepp game kind of late, and my team was losing badly (one engine down, Zepp coming over our base). My team evaporated, and I stuck it out, setting a simple goal of getting that second engine before the game was lost. I got spawnkilled repeatedly on the runway, and each time I re-spawned, I fought to get in the air. I remember someone texting some encouragement, we've all been there, way to stick it out, that sort of thing. I never did get that second engine, but I was proud to have tried, despite all the red ace patches streaming fire at me.

I'm not sure of my point in this post (besides flaming back). Maybe it's what that person told me, that we've all been there, and I'd like to say that I'm a better pilot from it. As for PRDog, I hope you don't ever find yourself playing particularly well one day, only to have someone flame at you and call you a Brigadier General Sandbagger. It's a GAME! I suppose anyone has a right to voice opinions; I am just providing the counterpoint.

Manfred

I was there. I also was suprised that PRDog was acting like that(not typical as far as my ingame experiece with him) tryed to calm him down to no avail. It happens Manfred, i had nyjet$fan flaming at me a while ago for the same thing. He said he was going to "put me on the forum" for simply playing the game. Bad day maybe, uncalled for absolutly. But know this...you are a great player and there is a community of great players and great people who have fun flying and b.s.ing together. Many more good apples than bad ones...the bad ones...make hot apple pie with them.

He does it to everyone. He is annoying and he curses everyone who shoots him down. He has big a big pain in the ass since he started playing. Team killing and everything.


He is some cranky old man.

Mmmmm hot apple pie mmmmmmmm

*420* wrote: Mmmmm hot apple pie mmmmmmmm

Haha! Fun game tonight/this morning. Btw you're at 421 posts!

Send me the times he's on. I'll mute 'em.

bomer1 wrote: He does it to everyone. He is annoying and he curses everyone who shoots him down. He has big a big pain in the ass since he started playing. Team killing and everything.


He is some cranky old man.

Ahhh.......but, not a "Mean Old Man".

Slenderman wrote: Send me the times he's on. I'll mute 'em.

dont forget the cathy phrase
MUTE IN HELL YOU SON OF A B****
lol

bomer1 wrote: He does it to everyone. He is annoying and he curses everyone who shoots him down. He has big a big pain in the ass since he started playing. Team killing and everything.


He is some cranky old man.

Ya thats the norm with him. You shoot him down and get the message back " screw you" and many other worse messages. He complains often that your hacking and that the game was made wrong and the planes fly horribly. I just wish he would leave and go play rise of flight if he wants realistic flight.

No nj i mean he is an actual cranky old man.

bomer1 wrote: No nj i mean he is an actual cranky old man.

Prdog has always been friendly with me....im dissapointed to hear the way he has been acting towards everyone

same here....

CalvinIsAwesome wrote: same here....

yup

PRDog has always been well behaved when I've played with him.

He just has a problem if you kill him more than 3 times.

I used to ahoot him down alot....all he would say is " woof"......lol

Ok well I'll see how it goes next time.
Manfred