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TOPIC: H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread

H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #276974

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The Best of The Best
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It's time to Vote!

It's time to select the first four Members for The Honor of being The Best of The Best!
Each of you can select 3 of the 8 Nominees to be inducted into the Category of the Best.
This is the highest Award of the Hall of Honor. This a ward will be permanently displayed in the Hall of Records, and if they choose, among the Member's Banners and Medals for all to know that they are among the Greatest of Dogfight.
The 8 Nominees are:
Rodama
ZebraUp
Pluribus
Von Hulk
Charli8
Con Estilo
Nestor Ala21
Davy Crockett
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Voting will last for ten days. Rules Below.

Rules for Nominating and Voting

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IMPORTANT:
Separate threads have been created for each category to ease the compilation process.
Please vote under the respective thread categories.


The Sub categories will be different for each Month. This will help reduce bias in voting.


Sub Category Voting [/color][/size]
  • Each Month Sub Categories will be released each week. Voting will last for 10 days.
  • During this period everyone will be allowed to vote for 3 people per category.
  • You cannot vote for yourself.
  • Please use the Players full in game / forum name, include their Squad name if applicable.
  • This will help avoid confusion of names. If necessary we will send you a PM to clarify.
  • If you select more than 3 people, we will use the first 3 names in your post.
  • When making your votes we urge you to consider, game play, skill, attitude, and participation in the game, forum, and Dogfight Community.
  • After voting ends on each thread names will be compiled.
  • We will then present the top ten members from each category.
  • Their names will be added to the Hall of Honor under the category for the Month.
  • The 2 members with the highest vote total of all 5 categories will win a nomination for the Best of the Best category.
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Nominations and Voting [/color][/size]
  • Nominations for the Best of the Best will begin on the 1st of every Third Month and will last for 10 days.
  • Each person can nominate 3 people.
  • You cannot nominate yourself
  • Please use members full in game / forum name.
  • If you nominate more than 3 people, we will take the first 3 names in your post.
  • At the end of the nomination period the 4 highest vote totals plus the 4 Nominees from the Sub Categories will be presented for voting.
  • Once voting begins everyone will be allowed to vote for 3 of the nominees.
  • You cannot vote for yourself.
  • The voting period will last for 10 days.
  • If you cast multiple votes, again, we will use the first name in your post.
  • At the conclusion of the voting period, votes will be tallied and the 4 Inductees will be announced on the nomination / voting thread.

  • Their names will be added to the Official Hall of Honor list.
  • They will also be given a badge to add into their signature identifying them as a Member of the Hall of Honor.
  • Once elected as one of The Best of the Best, it is permanent, and they cannot be inducted twice

IMPORTANT NOTES:
  • There will not be a "Hall of Shame". This Hall is totally focused on the positive aspects and influences of the game and Players.
  • Second, in the event of a tie in either category, World Rank will decide the winner.
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #276979

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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #276981

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    My vote goes to
    VonHulk - as he finds place in top 10 of each category we have taken out so far, plays fair, thorough gentlemen and well respected by DF community. A true brand ambassador of Dogfight.

    Davy Crockett- staying at number 1 position itself speaks the class of player he is together with his simplicity, starting the culture of meeting players in person whenever possible and not to forget bullying us.

    Rodama-Down to earth person, an all-rounder player and a thorough gentlemen.
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #276982

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    my vote goes to
    1- Von Hulk
    2- con Estilo
    3- Rodama
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #276989

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    Crockett, hulk, stripey (zebraup)
    The Brandyman can.....
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #276991

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    DAVY
    RODAMA
    CHARLI8
    All 3 are gentlemen, and extremely deadly. I'm flattered to see I am even mentioned in the same post as all the nominees. Well done



    ALL IN 100%
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #276992

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    Again this may seem biased. But basing my votes on the pilots I encountered when I first started playing and even into the days when I was in the 151st. These three made me cringe when I saw their names in Red. They were also among the first to take the time to give me tips and advice. My 3 votes have to go to,

    The deadliest head on Fighter, Davy Crockett,

    The fierce and unavoidable, Von Hulk

    And the unbeatable in a turn fight, ZebraUp



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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #276997

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    Hulk
    Davy
    Zebra
    Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or an idiot from any direction.
    (.Y.)

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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #276998

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    Von Hulk :cheer:
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277000

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    Hulk- always with a helpful word and a deadly gun. Will give you encouragement while tearing you out of the skies.

    Rodama- only a second vote because I haven't had the pleasure of flying with him as much. Scares the crap outa me!

    Zebra- freakin mutant! Hate this hybrid! Zebras do NOT have thumbs! Hate seeing him as red. Always friendly (except when he's killing you... A hole) and while he's not quite as helpful with the advice as the previous two, I've learned a hell of a lot from him.

    I'm gonna put an edit on this post. I voted for somebody that I've flown against a lot, and always came out of it a better player. Somebody that I've flown against a little less, and always came out impressed and a better player. And somebody that I've flown against too many times and who PISSES ME OFF! Don't make me explain, Zeb. You know why!

    All that said, this was a hard one. So many great people to choose from. I wish I could pick twenty. Thank you all for teaching me what you did and for making this such a great game.

    Cheers!


    To the fowl whose fiery eyes now burned into thy bosom’s core
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277006

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    VonHulk
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277008

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    Hulk
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277009

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    Von hulkenstien (shoots you down and encourages you to come back for more death)

    Davey sure shot crocket ( by the time you see him your already dead )

    Rodama (see this guy in a tank go high or as wide as you can even if your off radar he has ESP or laser guidance )
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277018

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    Well I will put it here I reckon. Von, Davy, Rodama
    Ignorance has a way of enlightening us all.

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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277087

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    Queremos nuestras medallas esto es injusto.4 pilotos de honor.david crocket,nestor,estilo
    chali8,no somos pilotos de relleno es injusto
    los 4 somos finalistas y debemos tener nuestra
    distincion.esto es indignante.antes se voto para 4 pilotos de honor.somos pilotos de honor
    De dogfight los 4.es una falta de respeto a todos y cada uno de los que nos votaron,todos los 4 compañeros tienen su distincion y nosotros la merecemos de igual manera al ser
    finalistas.aqui ahora se vota para una cosa
    diferente el mejor de los mejores segun voto.
    queremos nuestro premio.adios
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277118

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    BLUE MAX Then eveyone else. [ PERIOD]
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277173

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    baron rojo wrote: Queremos nuestras medallas esto es injusto.4 pilotos de honor.david crocket,nestor,estilo
    chali8,no somos pilotos de relleno es injusto
    los 4 somos finalistas y debemos tener nuestra
    distincion.esto es indignante.antes se voto para 4 pilotos de honor.somos pilotos de honor
    De dogfight los 4.es una falta de respeto a todos y cada uno de los que nos votaron,todos los 4 compañeros tienen su distincion y nosotros la merecemos de igual manera al ser
    finalistas.aqui ahora se vota para una cosa
    diferente el mejor de los mejores segun voto.
    queremos nuestro premio.adios


    Hola Charli :(
    Todos ustedes son grandes amigos y los aprecio mucho. Jamás les engañaría ni les seria injusta en alguna decisión, lo mismo digo de parte de Blue Y Sky. Ellos trabajan duro para que estos pequeños reconocimientos que nos otorgamos entre nosotros mismos sean, divertidos, justos y nos unan más como amigos de esta comunidad. La intención de este salón del Honor no es crear discordia, desunión, molestia o injusticia en contra d nadie, ninguno de nosotros nos prestaríamos para hacerle eso a nadie. Estoy muy apenada por lo sucedido Charli y te pido disculpas una y otra vez por el mal entendido, y eso es lo que ha sido un mal entendido. Son todos ustedes pilotos o jugadores de mucho Honor y si merecen estar todos en el salón de Honor al igual que muchos otros. Y sé que eventualmente lo estarán, tú, Néstor, Estilo y Croket son muy queridos y respetados líderes en la comunidad DF. Estas nominaciones y posteriores votaciones no son las últimas, habrá muchas más y sé que todos estarán ahí eventualmente. Y sé que siempre algunos buenos se quedaran afuera u olvidados pero eso no los hace menos. Todos somos importantes y la amistad es mucho más. Valoro mucho más la amistad de todos ustedes por encima de cualquier premio; recuerden que eso es lo que importa aquí. Espero que tanto tu como todos en la comunidad hispana comprendan que lo sucedido fue un mal entendido. Que podamos seguir participando sin rencores y si entienden que debemos realizar mejoras nos dejen saber.
    Nuevamente pido perdón por todo esto. :(
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277180

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    Side note: Thank goodness I can read Spanish.
    Ignorance has a way of enlightening us all.

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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277195

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    Weather[*M]an wrote: Side note: Thank goodness I can read Spanish.

    Well that makes one of us Brother! I read enough to understand there is a huge misunderstanding here. Acegirl has been keeping us up to spread. Not sure what the remedy is or if there is one.



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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277206

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    Von Hulk
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277568

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    Even though there has been a bumbp in the road, please continue voting. Things will get worked out.



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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #277611

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    I will do something unusual and keep my comment short (what's wrong with me?)

    HULK
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #278006

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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #278042

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    I can only vote for one player from this list as I have not played in any or enough games to vote for the nominees. I am sure they are worthy of their nominations and I would like to congradulate them all.

    With that said this one player would carry the title of being "best" honorably for many reasons. Great game play and an all around great guy. You earned this bro:
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #278075

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    Hmm,
    Von Hulk
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #278096

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    Mis votos son para
    Rodama
    Estilo
    Charli8
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #278122

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    5 LEFT TO VOTE!! We had an amazing response to the Nominations, now let's get these Members of our Community the Votes they Deserve!! This is the first Class to receive this prestigious Award, let's make it special!!



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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #278140

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    Hola to all!! :P
    We have 8 excellent pilots to choose from, they are all great players and deserve to be The Best of The Best. My votes go to:
    Charli8
    Rodama
    Con Estilo

    Good luck to everyone and you are all simply the Best in the skies of Dogfight. :kiss:

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    Hi to all!! :P
    Tenemos aquí 8 excelentes pilotos para escoger, son todos grandiosos jugadores y merecedores cada uno de estar entre los Mejores. Mi voto es para:
    Charli8
    Rodama
    Con Estilo

    Mucha suerte a todos pues son simplemente los mejores en los cielos de Dogfight. :kiss:
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #278143

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    Charli
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    Luck all!
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    H.O.H. Best of the Best Voting Thread 4 years 1 month ago #278152

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    I'm voting for Von Hulk , Rodama and Charlie 8
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