[M]Comet wrote: W
D93 Big Gunzzz wrote: WeatherMan
You asked that I come visit your thread with the accusation against Hulk's tank glitch so here I am.
First of all I give the Hulk much credit for being a man and admitting to it. Many would cowar away from this. In no means is my intent to offend the Hulk himself, the Misfits, or any other player in DF with the comments that I am about to make.
The Hulk has always been a true gentleman towards me upon my arrival here in DF. He has even passed quite a few positive comments in my direction about my game play. I respected him very highly hence my vote for him as the "best" along with my positive comments towards him.
This is my belief in this game and by no means does anyone need to agree with me on this. The following are not acceptable in any fashion to be used in a game unless the other team innitiates first then all fairness is thrown out the door. Tank glitching, any form of spawn killing, camping (as i see this as the same as s.k. wheels off the ground is a campers excuse to justify their actions), dropping all bombs just to get kills, and any cheap play. We all know when there are legit exceptions to this such as being on a bomb run. I think you get the picture should I have missed something here.
As much as I don't like the sneaking tactic I do believe it's fair play as everyone has the same option to do so and there is no limitation as to when it can be done as with the tank glitch when sometimes you will not be given the option to get in tank. Plus you will only take out 1 or 2 hangers and not potentially end the entire game on 1 run.
Anyone who has ever played in a game with me knows that I abide by what I have stated here. Do I make mistakes along the way? Yes! But I will correct them along the way and apoligize should I have crossed the line.
Tank glitch and these other tactics simply ruin the game. Yes it's unfortunate that they have not been disallowed somehow but we, the experienced players, all now better not to use them. So excuse me should I be offended when someone uses it against me. I know many other players do as well.
Example being a few nights ago were I was in the best game since signing up to DF. Your brothers MeGotcha and Comet can attest to this. Gotcha and I had just reached the 100 kill mark with absolutely no form of foul play along the way. We all commented how nice it was to have a game like this. That's when a new player arrived and pulled the old sneakaroo. We were all quite upset about it. MeGotcha actually left the game because of this move.
Now that's for a sneak and in my opinion a tank glitch is even worse.
I know there are many of you here that would agree with me on everything that I stated here. Considering the fact that I am speaking against one of your own may change your true opinion here and I would have to agree with you 100%. I would do the same unless the squad mate was regularly known to use such tactics. In that case I wouldn't want that player in my squad. This is another reason why I fly solo. I can answer for myself and don't need to think about how fair another squad mate may be playing.
So please don't even go there and say that I am whining as I find that many offenders of cheap play like to refer to someone who just simply tells it as is.
I hope you realize how either brave or stupid it is of me to make the comments that I have made here as I know that it may put me on the Misfits target radar. Then I am up the creek for sure. Then again I am always in trouble facing any of you guys as I have always considered you all as the elite squad in DF. I have always spoken very highly of your squad as you have seen in my prior visits here and in fact have even gotten along with many of you. If by me opening my mouth here changes anything well than it stinks for me and maybe I will regret doing so.
Sorry for the lengthy post here guys but I feel that I got to cover it all with my comments.
One more thing is that it's not only Hulk within this squad who has chosen to use this tactic. I have had some other run-ins along the way. Anyone who uses it knows who they are so no need to start pointing them out. I think it would be quite fair to have their entire stats removed from DF as some of them are top 100 guys. I don't believe that opting to use such tactics to reach such a famed position is deserved. Heck I'll remain on the outside forever if I have to if I can hold onto my way of playing and be okay with it.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Well now I know who gets my vote for most self righteous and holier than thou pilot. Gimme a break.
You could have pm'd SkyRipper or Blue to ask your vote be removed. You could have pm'd Von to ask him what his reasons were. But no, you decide to publicly shame one of THE greatest players in the game. And ruin relationships along the way. Nice job. I don't think much will change as Hulk will still be respected. But you now, how's your game gonna go from now on? I ain't hanging around with a tattle tale goody two shoes... this is a guy who lets you know when a noob has dropped his bomb. Like I give a shit...You ever fly a noob plane with no upgrades or did you just buy the best right off the bat. There's a reason a noob drops: it's because the nose of his plane won't stay up....but I digress...
Just remember Mr. Clean everyone will be watching you to see if you're actually as clean as you say you are. Good luck.
Comet
If you knew me I am the furthest one from being holy or self righteous. As for being Mr. Clean yes I do try to play as fair as I can. Will I mess up along the way? I am sure of it and hopefully I will recognize my mistakes and address them.
Such being the case I do agree with you with what you said about the way that I should have handled this situation. I didn't know better and I have apologized to the Hulk for it.
Tattle tale goody two shoes? Hulk stepped up like a man. I respect him for that. If someone decides to play in a certain way they should live up to it as he did. There should be no shame here if one decides to play how they want and in fact they should back themselves up. I would like to see a clean game being respected by all. Being that many do not yeah maybe one day even I will justify doing so. As of right now I like the way I go about playing in a game.
Whether it's a noob or a moraf yes I will inform my teammates if I know they have dropped. Carry two bombs and get into a turn fight with someone who has dropped. Well that's the reason I speak up. It's called team work. I know how good you are so maybe you don't come across this too often since you are knocking them off in the head to head whereas I am not that good and find myself in a turn fight along the way sometimes.
I talk about who has dropped as I would the same way if I knew someone was sneaking or if I catch anything else that I feel needs to be addressed. Do you really see something wrong with that?
Yes I did hold onto my starter planes much longer than I would have liked. I took way more than my fair share of beat downs along the way. There came a point where I got better but would never be able to hang with any tier 7 in a turn fight so yes I did pitch some cash into the game to invest in a better plane. Glad I did too. Did well with that one for once again longer than I should have and eventually got myself into a tier 7. Now at least I am at par with the planes being used in the game. I see now what a huge disadvantage it is when I take down a lesser tier plane in a turn fight or on any given pass.
Even with this plane I know that I am not even close to competing with guys such as the Hulk and yourself but I sure as heck try.